Nov 21, 2008 Posted in Walter's Lab Notessingle What the Fringe ? by Scully

“Arrival”-”Equation”-”Power Hungry” lab note connection

Original Post: by Fringeling at fringe-forum.com

Thanks to Fringeling…this really got me thinking. (a rhyme-Walter style)

Has anyone re-read Walter’s lab notes from “The Arrival” recently? They all but lay out the plot for The Equation, esp when combined with the lab notes from “The Equation”. I think it raises a whole new set of questions about who Walter really is, esp if he appears to know the future.

He also alludes to the WalterEgo I think as the Bearded Man, mentions the pearl in the oyster, returning to get his box of secrets, everything. Hmmm……

I’m also wondering if the Phi Chi Psi Omega Walter mentions has anything to do with the pattern we noticed in the St. Claires communal room?

And then there is the broken mug with H.A. on it (someone noticed it on another forum). Is there a connection to the HR on the outside of St. Claires?

This show is driving me nutz !!

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I am adding the lab notes from “Power Hungry” into this connection.

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104 - ‘Wrestling with his insides, trying to extract something, like the bearded man when he told me he needed another pearl‘. If my theory about Walter being cloned and still mentally connected to him is right, then that would make the bearded man his alter-ego.

105 - ‘How fitting that the other Walter…‘ another hint that Walter may have been cloned.

108 - ‘My visitor whispered to me, no more pearls in this oyster‘. If that makes the bearded man from Arrival the same as the visitor form Equation, then who the heck is the other person talking? It seems the visitor (Walter’s alter-ego) is the bad guy trying to get information and the third voice is trying to protect it (all be it in a very domineering manner).

108 - ‘He knows my combination, he bumped my head and I went to bed‘. Is he referring to the hospital warden here? Is the warden working for MD or ZFT or some other meanie group? If so, what is the combination…maybe it has something to do with the green-green-green-red lights, although I saw no sign of those dots anywhere in the hospital. It’s obvious that someone is trying to get something from Walter.

105 - ‘So many thoughts left behind in that place, and so many taken. My visitor was a hungry kingfisher, diving and plucking thoughts from the sea of my mind‘. Re-confirms that not only are they trying to get information from Walter now, but they have done so successfully in the past.

104 - ‘I left something behind, in a mattress

108 - ‘It was still there, my box of secrets…within a lumpy mattress‘. This seems to be the ’something’ that the visitor was trying to get from Walter, on this occasion, and since Walter took it with him, I think we will be learning more about this mysterious box soon enough.

108 - Two different theories about the reference to ‘boy’. The first being that the boy is Ben and the second being that he is Peter. I have mixed feelings about Walter’s references to the ‘boy’. In his first comment he says…”Dashiell and the boy with nothing in common-not even working in the same medium-not even knowing what they are trying to find–

It seems obvious to me that he is talking about Ben here. Dashiell’s medium being math and Ben’s being music–neither knowing that they are unwittingly trying to solve the same puzzle. But the second comment confuses me…”I have the boy now, he is the key, on some level he understands, even if he chafes and bristles

Now this to me seems more like he’s talking about Peter. Technically Walter doesn’t have Ben…I’m sure Ben is safe and sound at home with his soon-to-be-crazy Dad. Peter, however is side by side with Walter, and the words ‘chafe’ and ‘bristle’ certainly sound more like descriptions of Peter’s attitude than of Ben’s.

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Worth Noting: Dashiell is actually mentioned in the lab notes for “The Cure” which makes me wonder if we’ll ever meet Cassandra who is mentioned in the lab notes for “The Ghost Network

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Nov 20, 2008 Posted in Fringe - 108 The Equationsingle Fringe Symbols & Glyphssingle What the Fringe ? by Scully

What does this pattern mean?

There is something very weird going on in the hospital room where Walter tries to talk to Dashel. A pattern in the way things are laid out. Here is the pattern template …

The template

The template

Now look at the drawings on the wall…

With the drawings

The drawings

and the crayons on the table…

The crayons

The crayons

the cards stuck up on the wall…

The cards

The cards

and finally, the dominoes on the table…

The dominoes

The dominoes

I thought maybe this pattern was Braille, but that can’t be right because braille only goes 3 dots high, and the first group is 4 dots high. Then I thought maybe it is Morse code. The pattern varies slightly from image to image so it could be

4 dots - ‘H’ then dot,dash,dash - ‘W’ giving us ‘H.W.’

4 dots - ‘H’ then dash,dash,dot - ‘G’ giving us ‘H.G.’

This is the only explanation I can find…anyone have any other ideas??

Nov 19, 2008 Posted in Fringe - 108 The Equationsingle Fringe Symbols & Glyphssingle What the Fringe ? by Scully

Loeb - Massive Dynamic or ZFT

Last week there was no sign of Massive Dynamic anywhere, but we were introduced to some new bad guy group by the name of ZFT. As it turns out, another double agent, Loeb, appears to be working either for them or against them. At first I thought he must be working for them, but David Jones worked with them, and his comments contradict the idea that Loeb worked with them as well.

Jones: “The people I work with are loyal to the end. Can you say the same?

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Jones: “You make two assumptions, Miss Dunham, both incorrect. The first is that there is nothing more valuable than my freedom. The second, is that I am responsible for the infection of Agent Loeb.

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David Jones

David Jones

The first quote I assumed to be a reference to Agent Loeb, but it is possible it is a reference to John Scott. Even if that was true, why then did Agent Loeb have to go to so much trouble to get the password ‘Little Hill’? If they worked for the same company, wouldn’t he have access to that information freely? And if he didn’t have access, and is going rogue on ZFT, then Jones’ statement about his people being loyal is not quite so true. So, if Loeb doesn’t work for ZFT then who does he work for? If he works for Massive Dynamic, I would have expected there to be some clue to that…a hidden logo or something. Maybe I just missed it.

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In context…the second quote made me wonder…is the assumption that Jones is the one that works for ZFT the faulty one. Perhaps Loeb does work for ZFT, and Jones does not. That would certainly make Jones’ comments ring more true.

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This week, we see the return of Agent Loeb, and he is up to no good again. We also don’t see any references to Massive Dynamic. This time Agent Loeb is stealing an equation and using it to build a cloning machine. This answers the question as to whether or not he works for Massive Dynamic…we know they already have their cloning machines, and they are cloning more than just apples.

Cloning Massive Dynamic style

Cloning - Massive Dynamic style

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Agent Loeb has to be working for somebody. We know this because after he shoots Joanne Ostler he speed-dials someone and states “It works.” So if he doesn’t work for Massive Dynamic and he doesn’t work for ZFT, then who the blazes is he working for?  Then again, if it is not a cloning machine that Loeb is working on, but rather a matter displacement device, then that changes the order of the cards yet again.

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At any rate, I really feel sorry for M.D. because it looks like they have some serious competition coming at them from more than one angle.

Nov 19, 2008 Posted in Fringe - 108 The Equationsingle Fringe Symbols & Glyphssingle What the Fringe ? by Scully

The Apple

Near the end of the episode we watch as Agent Loeb places an apple into a mysterious contraption…

The forbidden fruit

The forbidden fruit

and then he pulls what looks like the same apple out of the other side. I don’t think this was the same apple. I think ‘they‘ used the equation to build their own cloning machine. My reasoning? The apple glyph with the twin fetuses for starters…need I say more? Now if I just knew who ‘they‘ were !!

The clone apple

The clone apple

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It is also possible that it is not the same apple at all. Maybe the equation was some sort of matter-displacement formula, and he is actually pulling the same apple out the other side of the safe…through the safe wall.

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SPOILER ALERT: highlight to read

This would be a prelude to Episode 10…“While investigating a series of bank robberies, the team is shocked to find one of the suspects trapped inside a vault wall, as if it has solidified around him.” If this is the case, then perhaps the apple is just a reference to ‘the forbidden fruit’…the desire for forbidden knowledge.

Nov 19, 2008 Posted in Fringe - 108 The Equationsingle What the Fringe ? by Scully

Walter - the clone side

In the pilot episode, Olivia gets into a tank and merges her mind with John Scott’s in order to get information from him when he was dying and unable to speak. In later episodes, she starts to see John Scott live and in person, even though he is now dead (or so they think). Walter explains that when they made that connection, a part of John was left behind in Olivia, and she is now accessing that information.

In the tank

In the tank

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So here is my question…’What the fringe‘ is this about ??????????

Dream?

Dream?

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So either Walter is just crazy as a loon, or something more ominous is going on here. Is it possible that Walter was cloned, merged together psychically with his clone and now he is seeing the real image of himself the same way Olivia sees John?

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Furthermore, if a clone was made of Walter…maybe he is the mysterious person who keeps solving the problems Walter never solved, and finishing the experiments that Walter never finished. Who would be better suited to perfect Walter’s work than Walter himself? After all, if there is a clone, he has had 17 years to work out all of the kinks. Is it possible that the real Walter or the clone is off somewhere with William Bell, working on Massive Dynamic projects as we speak?

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There was something that I noticed, but didn’t give it much thought until now. In the last episode there was one point when there was a strange reflection in Walter’s right eye…

strange reflection

strange reflection

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At the time I thought it was strange that it was only reflecting in one eye…but I dismissed it as a lighting problem. Now I wonder if it was put there as another insight into the possibility that something is very strange about our Dr. Walter Bishop.

Is it possible that the glimmer is a sign of when he is making a psychic connection to himself, or his clone, or whomever the case may be? I guess we will have to wait and see if there is anything to my theory.

Nov 19, 2008 Posted in Fringe - 108 The Equationsingle Fringe Symbols & Glyphssingle What the Fringe ? by Scully

Green and Red dot mystery semi-solved

Remember the red and green dots that were popping up all over the place…

binoculars-104, kayak-101, hat-104

Well it turns out they are a series of lights, that when flashed at a certain frequency and wavelength will put someone in a hypnotic state, making them susceptible to suggestion and causing them to lose time or black out. Walter worked on this very thing for an advertising company but was not successful. Obviously someone has perfected it and is using it for evil. Here they are under the hood of Joanne’s car…

Under the hood

Under the hood

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I have no problem with the dots on Rogue’s hat…he was a bad guy, but what about the dots in the viewer of The Observer’s binoculars? I was under the impression he was kind of a good guy…or at least neutral. And what about the kayak that belonged to Olivia’s uncle? Was he a bad guy, or perhaps he is another observer. I look forward to learning what “ZENO” means, maybe that would answer some questions. Here they are again in the dungeon where Ben was being held…

In the dungeon

In the dungeon

Nov 13, 2008 Posted in Fringe - 107 In Which We Meet Mr. Jonessingle Fringe - 108 The Equationsingle Fringe Preludessingle What the Fringe ? by Scully

Prelude to 108 in 107

One of the items that Agent Loeb brought back from Germany with him was a copy of ‘A Christmas Carol’. This could be in reference to the red and green lights that has Walter thinking of Christmas lights or to the ‘ghost of Christmas past’ (Walter’s past at St. Claire’s hospital).

Nov 13, 2008 Posted in Fringe - 107 In Which We Meet Mr. Jonessingle What the Fringe ? by Scully

Page 47

When Agent Loeb is talking to Broyles, he mentions ‘Page 47‘…although they never show us what is on page 47, I wonder if it was a reference to J.J. Abrams’ show Alias. One of the major plot-lines was Rambaldi’s missing page…Page 47.

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Page 47